Everyday Disaster


February 27th, 2017, 9:54 pm
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Spooks February 27th, 2017, 9:54 pm
I live in a zoo.
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Oly-RRR February 27th, 2017, 10:23 pm
I'm impressed you take care of them all (and yay rescuing Toby)! So are Merry and Pippin mice or rats?
Spooks February 28th, 2017, 10:53 am
@Oly-RRR: I actually have a dedicated cat room in my apartment, it's kind of sad. XD Merry and Pippin are rats!
Oly-RRR March 1st, 2017, 3:58 pm
@Spooks: I don't think it's sad, more like proper pet care, but then I have 6 rats (right now, and many more before them). :) Are your rats okay living around cats?
Spooks March 1st, 2017, 4:22 pm
@Oly-RRR: Oh yeah they don't mind at all. Honestly whenever I let them out to roam (closely supervised), the cats are way more afraid of the rats than the other way around. People always ask why my cats are afraid of the rats when they eat them in the wild, and I always say "You eat beef but you'd probably run away too if a cow was coming at you!"
Oly-RRR March 1st, 2017, 4:28 pm
@Spooks: I thought you just lock the cats up in the cat room. But yeah, it can go either way with cats and rats.
Spooks March 1st, 2017, 6:17 pm
@Oly-RRR: Usually I do, but they're very curious about each other, so sometimes I let them interact. The rat cage is where the cats can see and sniff them, and sometimes they "play" through the bars, which is super super cute. The cat room is mostly for climbing furniture and litterboxes. The key to keeping so many cats in one area is to provide them with lots of vertical space and things to do other than murder each other.
Oly-RRR March 1st, 2017, 8:28 pm
@Spooks: I wouldn't want to sound like I'm telling you how to treat your pets (you sound okay, and hopefully you know your pets best) but just make sure the rats have some safe space where they can't be sniffed and looked at? I just know cats can play roughly (from my own experience as a child in a house with cats) - not because of bad character, it's just their nature. And I find that people who are mostly familiar with cats and dogs often misread rodents simply because they are more used to how medium-sized predators behave. Blah, it still sounds like I'm telling you what to do but if I come off as nosy and help prevent something upsetting I'll live with that.
Spooks March 1st, 2017, 8:33 pm
@Oly-RRR: Oh goodness don't worry, the rats have tons of hides and only the bottom tier of their cage is remotely accessible to the cats. They absolutely can and do get away when they're not up to interspecies attention. I appreciate the concern though! I'm a veteran cat owner but I'm very new to rats, so I'm always down for advice.
Oly-RRR March 1st, 2017, 8:47 pm
@Spooks: Oh, phew! I always worry about this sort of conversations - you want to be helpful, but you also don't want to sound like one of those people who know THE ONE way to train dogs or raise children or whatever. Always feel free to shoot me a PM if you have any questions!

Generally when they are staring with the whiskers in front of them if the whiskers are moving around it's more curiosity, if the whiskers are still it's "WTF is that?!" I assume you know the more general advice (like them being social animals and needing to interact with you as well as each other, and that it's best to look up special rat vets in your local rodent online community because regular pet vets can be REALLY CRAP at treating rats and might not even admit it) but again, if you are having any questions or doubts, drop me a line! I've been keeping rats since before the Internet was a common thing and I wouldn't want anyone to go through those troubles when misinformation can be avoided.
Spooks March 1st, 2017, 9:33 pm
@Oly-RRR: Thank you!!! I'm fortunate to have found a good vet that I really, really like, who deals with cats, dogs, and rodents, and who I really trust is invested in the wellbeing of animals over... other motivations. I've had my fair share of bad vets in the past, so I definitely appreciate finding a good one.

That's good to know! I'm slowly learning rat body language. I've found that they're very, very smart and expressive, perhaps even moreso than cats and dogs, and definitely more than I expected. I did a TON of reading before I ever thought about adopting a rat, and more still since I did adopt a pair, and I still find that they teach me new things every day. =) It's amazing how such little animals can have such huge personalities, and add so much value to your life.
Oly-RRR March 6th, 2017, 3:24 pm
@Spooks: Yeah, I feel the same way about my rats, and I've been keeping them for ages. I think watching them interact with each other and people helps me understand humans more than anything else, and they definitely changed my perceptions of life and time. I'm probably very biased about rats but with the way most of the world sees them I figure they need someone on their side.

I used to keep male pairs for a long time, but after my previous guys (Gene and Chris) I realised that it's much harder for the last rat to pass alone, and it's harder for me too. So when Strange and Norrell got to 1 year mark (mature but not too old to be bothered by youngsters) I introduced two more guys to the pack and then ended up with 6 rats (and a new larger cage). It's been crazy but I wouldn't change a thing! :D Also all the introductions went really smoothly (I read up on it a lot and expected much worse), though it probably helps that it's 3 pairs of brothers.
jnrnikki February 28th, 2017, 5:08 am
I have 5 dogs and 2 fish.I want a cat though ~
Spooks February 28th, 2017, 7:51 pm
@jnrnikki: Ironically, I want a dog! Cats are great though =)
Oly-RRR March 1st, 2017, 3:59 pm
@Spooks: Who DOESN'T want a dog! :D I don't think I could handle adding a dog to my home right now but I'm really considering it for the future.
PinkEevee March 6th, 2017, 1:55 pm
5 cats? you have out done me and my 4 cats. But yea cats who can't live with out them!